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iOS 16.3 and 15.7.3 out
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Andy Burnelli
2023-01-24 00:04:18 UTC
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Glad that Apple is providing security updates for older devices that are
not eligible for iOS 16.x.
Agree with you that Apple had to go against their own rules and patch the
iOS 15 devices for _some_ of these huge and many holes, most in the kernel.

If Apple didn't patch the older release, people would be throwing them in
the river because the holes in iOS are astoundingly huge and many.

The kernel holes are the worst.

You'd think Apple would test their own kernel, but by Apple's own
admission, they found _zero_ of the holes that they fixed in this release.

Yes.
Zero.

It's yet more proof Apple doesn't even _look_ for holes, along with the
fact that Apple adds a brand new zero-day hole to iOS every month.

No smartphone has _more_ zero-day holes than the iPhone does.
And if you don't believe it - just look it up.

Me having to re-post a hundred times this fact isn't going to make
you read anything you don't want to read because you _hate_ facts.
Alan
2023-01-24 01:01:30 UTC
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Post by Andy Burnelli
Glad that Apple is providing security updates for older devices that
are not eligible for iOS 16.x.
Agree with you that Apple had to go against their own rules
Got a cite for those "rules"?

Thought not.
Post by Andy Burnelli
and patch the
iOS 15 devices for _some_ of these huge and many holes, most in the kernel.
Cite?
Post by Andy Burnelli
If Apple didn't patch the older release, people would be throwing them in
the river because the holes in iOS are astoundingly huge and many.
Yet they worked without trouble for quite some time...
Post by Andy Burnelli
The kernel holes are the worst.
You'd think Apple would test their own kernel, but by Apple's own
admission, they found _zero_ of the holes that they fixed in this release.
Cite?
Post by Andy Burnelli
Yes.
Zero.
It's yet more proof Apple doesn't even _look_ for holes, along with the
fact that Apple adds a brand new zero-day hole to iOS every month.
No smartphone has _more_ zero-day holes than the iPhone does.
And if you don't believe it - just look it up.
Me having to re-post a hundred times this fact isn't going to make
you read anything you don't want to read because you _hate_ facts.
You don't actually post facts.

I'm not sure you know what the word "fact" even means.
sms
2023-01-24 01:43:21 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Glad that Apple is providing security updates for older devices that
are not eligible for iOS 16.x.
Agree with you that Apple had to go against their own rules
Got a cite for those "rules"?
Thought not.
There were no such "rules." Security updates to iOS 15 are expected for
a couple of more years.
Peter
2023-01-24 04:38:24 UTC
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Post by sms
Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Glad that Apple is providing security updates for older devices that
are not eligible for iOS 16.x.
Agree with you that Apple had to go against their own rules
Got a cite for those "rules"?
Thought not.
There were no such "rules." Security updates to iOS 15 are expected for
a couple of more years.
This sms guy is wrong as usual(tm).
And so are all the other naysayers who don't read Apple announcements.

It seems this sms guy lives in the north pole where there is no Internet.
How else could he be so clueless about what has been all over the news?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

This latest release only bug fix policy applies to the macOS also.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/11/psa-apple-isnt-actually-patching-all-the-security-holes-in-older-versions-of-macos/

Why don't those who say it's not true read Apple's own announcements first?
https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web

Does this oblivious sms guy live so far away from civilization up at the
North Pole such that it takes years for Apple news to make it to his igloo?
Ant
2023-01-24 01:24:35 UTC
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16.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213606
15.7.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213598
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;) https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
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Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 02:03:24 UTC
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16.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213606
15.7.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213598
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;) https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
That can't be true.
According to Arlen, it's "aginst Apple's own rules"!
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Andy Burnelli
2023-01-24 04:19:05 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
That can't be true.
Hi Jolly Roger,

It's no longer shocking how ignorant you are of Apple's own written policy.
Fixing one bug out of fifteen known bugs is within Apple's stated policy.

Your brain is that of a retarded five year old, Jolly Roger. Seriously.
You can't understand something even as _simple_ as that, Jolly Roger.

Seriously.
How ignorant are you of Apple's written policy?

Look it up.
Which you won't.

Because you like being ignorant, Jolly Roger.
It's who you are.
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5. They deny it again.
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Two weeks later...
9. They deny it yet again, over and over, they deny all facts they hate.
10. They demand the link (which they've been given & they didn't read).

It never ends with these uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 06:14:10 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
That can't be true.
Hi Jolly Roger,
Fuck off, Arlen.
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Rod Speed
2023-01-24 09:13:41 UTC
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Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Jolly Roger
That can't be true.
Hi Jolly Roger,
Fuck off, Arlen.
off got sick of being fucked and joined the #Me Too movement.
Ant
2023-01-24 04:25:59 UTC
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Post by Ant
16.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213606
15.7.3
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213598
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;) https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
That can't be true.
According to Arlen, it's "aginst Apple's own rules"!
We don't need stinking rules. ;)
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mike
2023-01-24 14:40:41 UTC
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Post by Ant
We don't need stinking rules. ;)
He's actually correct. It's Jolly Roger & Alan who are clueless. Not him.

https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 16:16:52 UTC
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Post by mike
Post by Ant
We don't need stinking rules. ;)
He's actually correct.
Not in this case, nope.
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mike
2023-01-24 19:37:11 UTC
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Post by mike
He's actually correct.
Not in this case, nope.
What did you not believe about that link I gave you to read first?
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases

And what don't you believe in this next link I'm giving you to learn from?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

If you need to learn more about Apple's written policy, have you read this?
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web

When you read those, what do you think Apple said their release policy is?
nospam
2023-01-24 20:52:53 UTC
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Post by mike
What did you not believe about that link I gave you to read first?
you don't understand what your links even say.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 21:39:44 UTC
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Post by mike
What did you not believe about that link I gave you to read first?
you don't understand what your links even say.
As usual, he doesn't *care* - he's only here to troll - it's literally
his life (he spends hours and hours every day trolling). He's pathetic.
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mike
2023-01-24 22:16:54 UTC
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he doesn't *care*
I think I do care to understand what that link says about Apple releases.

But you say I don't care because you read the same link but you came to a
different conclusion than I did about what that link says about releases.

Since you say you care how Apple releases iOS & macOS, what do you think
this link says about why and how Apple clarified its own release policy?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

I'll type is up below for you so that you don't even have to click it.
What specifically are you saying is wrong that is said in the link below?

Apple clarifies security update policy.
Only the latest OSes are fully patched.
New document confirms what security researchers have observed for years.
ANDREW CUNNINGHAM - 10/27/2022, 9:48 PM

UPGRADE TO GET YOUR UPDATES

Earlier this week, Apple released a document clarifying its terminology and
policies around software upgrades and updates. Most of the information in
the document isn't new, but the company did provide one clarification about
its update policy that it hadn't made explicit before: Despite providing
security updates for multiple versions of macOS and iOS at any given time,
Apple says that only devices running the most recent major operating system
versions should expect to be fully protected.

Apple isn't actually patching all the security holes in older versions.

Throughout the document, Apple uses "upgrade" to refer to major OS releases
that can add big new features and user interface changes and "update" to
refer to smaller but more frequently released patches that mostly fix bugs
and address security problems (though these can occasionally enable minor
feature additions or improvements as well). So updating from iOS 15 to iOS
16 or macOS 12 to macOS 13 is an upgrade. Updating from iOS 16.0 to 16.1 or
macOS 12.5 to 12.6 or 12.6.1 is an update.

"Because of dependency on architecture and system changes to any current
version of macOS (for example, macOS 13)," the document reads, "not all
known security issues are addressed in previous versions (for example,
macOS 12)."

In other words, while Apple will provide security-related updates for older
versions of its operating systems, only the most recent upgrades will
receive updates for every security problem Apple knows about. Apple
currently provides security updates to macOS 11 Big Sur and macOS 12
Monterey alongside the newly released macOS Ventura, and in the past, it
has released security updates for older iOS versions for devices that can't
install the latest upgrades.

Some Macs are getting fewer updates than they used to.
Here's why it's a problem.

This confirms something that independent security researchers have been
aware of for a while but that Apple hasn't publicly articulated before.
Intego Chief Security Analyst Joshua Long has tracked the CVEs patched by
different macOS and iOS updates for years and generally found that bugs
patched in the newest OS versions can go months before being patched in
older (but still ostensibly "supported") versions, when they're patched at
all.

This is relevant for Mac users because Apple drops support for older Mac
and iDevice models in most upgrades, something that has accelerated
somewhat for older Intel Macs in recent years (most Macs still receive six
or seven years of upgrades, plus another two years of updates). This means
that every year, there's a new batch of devices that are still getting some
security updates but not all of them. Software like the OpenCore Legacy
Patcher can be used to get the newest OS versions running on older
hardware, but it's not always a simple process, and it has its own
limitations and caveats.

That said, this probably shouldn't dramatically change your calculus for
when to upgrade or stop using an older Mac. Most people running an
up-to-date Big Sur or Monterey installation with an up-to-date Safari
browser should be safe from most high-priority threats, especially if you
also keep the other apps on your Mac updated. And Apple's documentation
doesn't change anything about how it updates older software; it merely
confirms something that had already been observed.

We've asked Apple to be more upfront about its security communication, and
this is a step forward in that regard. But if you believe you're being
specifically targeted by attackers, you have another reason to make sure
your software (and hardware) are fully updated and upgraded.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 23:51:15 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
he doesn't *care*
I think I do care
You care to troll which is your only reason for being in the Apple
newsgroups.
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mike
2023-01-25 00:15:14 UTC
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your only reason
You can weasel all you want but it doesn't change that you do not know how
Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release if you can't answer this question.

What is the difference between an iOS/macOS update & an iOS/macOS upgrade?
mike
2023-01-24 22:04:49 UTC
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Post by mike
What did you not believe about that link I gave you to read first?
you don't understand what your links even say.
I think I did understand exactly what that link says for Apple releases.
But you say you read the same link but came to a different conclusion.

But you didn't bother to say what you think is wrong in that link.
So you have no basis to say that what I said it says is wrong.

To get that basis, tell me what do YOU think this link says?
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases

I'll type is up below for you so that you don't even have to click it.
What specifically are you saying is wrong that is said in the link below?

Apple Admits It Only Fully Patches Security Flaws In Its Latest OS Releases

We here at HotHardware regularly advise our readers to ensure that their
systems and software are up to date. Updates may include cool new features,
but most updates are security-driven, patching holes, fixing glitches, and
preventing exploits. However, for Apple, apparently not all systems are
created equal, for not all devices will get complete patches for certain
updates.

Apple loves to tout that they are a leader in security for personal
computing devices. The company even claimed that "Macs don't have that
problem," when referring to viruses in the Mac vs. PC ads of 2006 through
2009 starring Justin Long and John Hodgman. This obviously is not true, and
Apple got in legal hot water for the claim.

According to a document published by Apple and found by our colleagues over
at Arstechnica, security researchers' fears have rang true. Old versions of
operating systems of Apple devices do not get complete security patches.
The emphasis in the document is that there is a difference between Upgrade
and Update, at least in the Apple lexicon.

To Apple, an Upgrade would be a single major version number. For example,
going from iOS 15 to iOS 16, or macOS 12 to macOS 13 are upgrades, while
anything with a decimal after it is an update. This is interesting, and
follows suit with a lot of other software number versioning. This also
clarifies something involving updates.

Not all updates line up with each other, if they even happen at all. iOS 16
is the latest version of iOS, but prior to this was iOS 15.4. Let's say
that iOS 16 gets an update to iOS 16.1 and it's mostly security updates to
iOS itself that likely are applicable to iOS 15 versions. In this example,
iOS 15.4 might not get an update to 15.5 until much later, if at all. The
same rules apparently apply to iPadOS, and macOS.

Now, most Macs still have a six to seven year update cycle, and iPhones get
five years of updates. These are actually some of the longest timelines for
this type of service in the industry. However, if users are not getting the
most recent patches and updates for security, this turns into a bit of a
catch 22-if consumers do want the latest security they are going to have to
buy the devices that support the latest operating systems. So that actually
shortens actual long-term security life-cycle for some devices, as if the
device does not support that latest upgrade, it might not get that latest
update.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 22:09:31 UTC
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Post by nospam
Post by mike
What did you not believe about that link I gave you to read first?
you don't understand what your links even say.
I think I did understand
What this dip shit doesn't understand is that the rest of us see right
through his lame reactionary trolls: Apple releases a security update
for iOS 12 (which was released five years ago), someone in this news
group comments they are pleased about this, and in comes dumpy-pants
trollboi in a lame attempt to rain on the parade, because trolling is
literally his entire life, and he literally has nothing better to do
with the literal hours he spends here trying to disrupt otherwise
productive and pleasant conversations like the little petulant
man-chid he is. He's a sad, little loser.
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mike
2023-01-24 22:24:48 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
Post by nospam
you don't understand what your links even say.
I think I did understand
What this dip shit doesn't understand
The links said what Apple means by an iOS or macOS security update.
They also said what Apple means by an iOS or macOS security upgrade.

iOS 15 gets one.
iOS 16 gets the other.

You're complaining I don't understand the difference so what do you think
is the difference between an Apple iOS/macOS update versus an upgrade?
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 21:38:35 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
He's actually correct.
Not in this case, nope.
What did you not believe
Ask yourself what *you* don't believe about the FACT that Apple just
released an update for iOS 12, dip shit. You're trolling the Apple news
groups because you are butt hurt that Apple just released an update for
iOS 12 - you can't *stand* this *fact*. You're a loser. : )
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mike
2023-01-24 22:20:09 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Ask yourself what *you* don't believe about the FACT that Apple just
released an update for iOS 12, dip shit.
Do you know the difference between an Apple iOS update versus upgrade?
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 23:53:04 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Ask yourself what *you* don't believe about the FACT that Apple just
released an update for iOS 12, dip shit.
Do you know the difference between an Apple iOS update versus upgrade?
Do you know why that's irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just released
security updates for older devices?
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mike
2023-01-25 00:25:50 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Do you know why that's irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just released
security updates for older devices?
How did you get that all wrong again?

This is like the fifth time you've shown you don't understand how Apple
patches macOS or iOS for security vulnerabilities.

You can weasel all you want but it doesn't change that you do not know how
Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release if you can't answer this question.

What is the difference between an iOS/macOS update & an iOS/macOS upgrade?
Jolly Roger
2023-01-25 17:19:46 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Do you know why that's irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just released
security updates for older devices?
How did you get that all wrong again?
I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
iOS 12. And that pisses you off to no end, which is why you are here
trolling.
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mike
2023-01-25 22:54:51 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
How did you get that all wrong again?
I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
iOS 12.
How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?

Only after you can answer this question correct, will you understand.

Did Apple give iOS 12 the full patch of all critical security issues
that Apple knows are in iOS 12 (like Apple did with iOS 16 this week)?
Jolly Roger
2023-01-26 02:08:32 UTC
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Post by mike
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
How did you get that all wrong again?
I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
iOS 12.
How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?
Irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just patched a security
vulnerability in iOS 12.You *HATE* facts.
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mike
2023-01-26 03:02:31 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?
Irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just patched a security
vulnerability in iOS 12
That's it. You demonstrated you have no idea how Apple updates releases.

There's no use talking to you since you've proved lack of understanding.
Have a good day.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-26 03:43:00 UTC
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Post by mike
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by mike
How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how
Apple updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?
Irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just patched a security
vulnerability in iOS 12
That's it.
I know you can't stand the truth. None of your little troll gang can
stand the *fact* that Apple just patched a security vulnerability in iOS
12 which runs on devices that are ten years old. And that's why you are
here doing your reactionary trolling.
Post by mike
You demonstrated you have no idea how Apple updates releases.
Nope, that's a distraction you and your little troll gang are
*desperately* trying to inject into this thread because you can't
*stand* the *fact* that Apple just released a security update for iOS
12. Your hatred drives you to troll. It's why you spend every waking
moment in Apple news groups. Apple lives in your demented heads rent
free, 24/7. : )
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Have a good day.
The day you keel over and die will be a good day for all of Usenet.
We'll all have a little party here on that day. : )
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Bob Campbell
2023-01-24 23:20:01 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Ask yourself what *you* don't believe about the FACT that Apple just
released an update for iOS 12, dip shit. You're trolling the Apple news
groups because you are butt hurt that Apple just released an update for
iOS 12 - you can't *stand* this *fact*. You're a loser. : )
Not to mention that Arlen blathers on and on about how “Apple only issues
security updates for the current version” but then when a security update
for 15.7 comes along he - predictably - falls back on “its so bad that
Apple is forced to update 15.7 too”.

When WILL this pathetic troll child grow up and Get A Life? 🙄

Hey Arlen, how are those ultrasonic file transfers working?

Idiot.
sms
2023-01-24 23:32:47 UTC
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On 1/24/2023 3:20 PM, Bob Campbell wrote:

<snip>
Post by Bob Campbell
Not to mention that Arlen blathers on and on about how “Apple only issues
security updates for the current version” but then when a security update
for 15.7 comes along he - predictably - falls back on “its so bad that
Apple is forced to update 15.7 too”.
When WILL this pathetic troll child grow up and Get A Life? 🙄
Hey Arlen, how are those ultrasonic file transfers working?
Idiot.
Apple didn't ever say that they would stop support for those old
versions, just that even with the security updates those old versions of
iOS were not as secure as current versions.

When a security flaw is serious enough a manufacturer will do an update.
Microsoft has done this with Windows
<https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/>
and Google has done this with Android.

It's a good thing, not a bad thing, when these updates happen.
NewsKrawler
2023-01-24 23:37:45 UTC
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It's a good thing, not a bad thing, when these updates happen.
Every manufacturer does this when their bugs are this numerous & severe.
https://thehackernews.com/2023/01/apple-issues-updates-for-older-devices.html

It seems every iOS device ever made is easily taken over now, which is
likely the reason why Apple backported some of the most serious of these
widespread active serious exploits of almost all iOS devices out there.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-24 23:57:12 UTC
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Post by sms
It's a good thing, not a bad thing, when these updates happen.
Every manufacturer does this when their bugs are this numerous & severe.
"NewsKrawler" and his little troll gang *desperately* want the rest of
us to ignore the *fact* that Apple is providing security updates to
older devices, and instead wants everyone to believe the shitty
implication that supposedly no other platform vendors have numerous and
severe security vulnerabilities. : D
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cris
2023-01-25 00:20:40 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
ignore the *fact* that Apple is providing security updates to
older devices, and instead wants everyone to believe the shitty
implication that supposedly no other platform vendors have numerous and
severe security vulnerabilities.
It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.

All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.

Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.

That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.
sms
2023-01-25 00:26:42 UTC
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On 1/24/2023 4:20 PM, cris wrote:

<snip>
Post by cris
Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.
Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.
This doesn't make the older iOS releases unusable, just a little more
risky, but they are patching the most serious issues.
Post by cris
That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity” ― Hanlon's Razor
cris
2023-01-25 00:34:58 UTC
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Post by sms
Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.
Exactly my point.

I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?

What Apple did to releases way back to iOS 12 is all over the news today.
The whole world is aware of what happened, except this Jolly Roger bloke.

Apple only fixes all the bugs they know about in the latest release.
Apple says so themselves, but this Jolly Roger bloke won't read the links.

Anything else is up to Apple's discretion where this bug is actively
exploited, and extremely serious - so Apple decided to patch older releases
with JUST this ONE bug (and not all the many others in this latest patch).

That any company, Apple or Google or Microsoft, decides to patch the most
serious and most actively exploited bugs, does not mean that Apple is
patching all the bugs in any iOS release below iOS 16.

That is what that Jolly Roger bloke doesn't understand.

Why can't he understand it?
I don't know.

But he can't.
Why not?
sms
2023-01-25 01:07:06 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by sms
Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.
Exactly my point.
I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?
It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.

Also consider using Reddit for discussions. While Reddit is a pain in
some ways, like the advertising, at least it has some gentle moderation
so the kind of disruptive behavior you see on Usenet would not be tolerated.
cris
2023-01-25 02:49:22 UTC
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Post by sms
Post by cris
I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?
It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.
I don't think Jolly Roger knew and I don't think he has learned either.
He doesn't understand what you understand about how Apple patches iOS.
sms
2023-01-25 16:28:37 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by sms
Post by cris
I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?
It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.
I don't think Jolly Roger knew and I don't think he has learned either.
He doesn't understand what you understand about how Apple patches iOS.
The reality is that most of the trolls actually do understand. They read
the citations and look at the references but they don't appreciate being
proven wrong so they do what they do. The important thing is that they
actually are being educated.
nospam
2023-01-25 16:41:42 UTC
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Post by sms
The reality is that most of the trolls actually do understand. They read
the citations and look at the references but they don't appreciate being
proven wrong so they do what they do.
that describes you.
Post by sms
The important thing is that they
actually are being educated.
in your case, that doesn't happen.
cris
2023-01-25 18:44:53 UTC
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Post by nospam
Post by sms
The important thing is that they
actually are being educated.
in your case, that doesn't happen.
I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not understand
how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though you told them.

The Apple written policy is an upgrade goes from iOS 15.something to iOS
16.something while an update is from 15.something to 15.something-bigger.

Using example numbers, an update is iOS 15.6 to iOS 15.7 or going from iOS
15.7.2 to iOS 15.7.3. An example update is from iOS 15.7.2 to iOS 16.3.

I think nospam understands that but Jolly Roger definitely does not
understand that but what is much more important that Jolly Roger & nospam
don't understand is how many of the known fixed bugs Apple puts into any of
those updates and upgrades.

Based on Apple's written policy on how they update iOS (and macOS), what
Apple does is build a fix to any bug they know of that they want to put in
any release they want to (just like Microsoft and Google do when the bug is
so bad they have to go back and fix that one bad bug in older devices), but
that isn't a full hotfix update release - it's only a tiny portion of one.

Even Google and Microsoft will go back eight or more years for a single bug
when they have to - just like Apple does when Apple has to do the same.

But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a

You can tell that Jolly Roger and nospam don't understand Apple's policy
because they think Apple patched every bug that Apple knows about in iOS 12
when all Apple did was patch the one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug in iOS 12.

Same with iOS 15 although Apple added a couple more fixed bugs to the mix.

Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam understand the distinction that you
understand, which is that one bug or one subset is not the full set.

That full patch only goes into the latest release, which is iOS 16 today.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

As you said though, it could be that Jolly Roger and nospam don't want to
understand how Apple patches releases, or it could be they don't understand
which is what I think it is.

Either way, nothing they've said shows an understanding of what Apple does.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-25 20:44:00 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by nospam
The important thing is that they actually are being educated.
in your case, that doesn't happen.
I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not
understand how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though
you told them.
The Apple written policy is an upgrade goes from iOS 15.something to
iOS 16.something while an update is from 15.something to
15.something-bigger.
Using example numbers, an update is iOS 15.6 to iOS 15.7 or going from
iOS 15.7.2 to iOS 15.7.3. An example update is from iOS 15.7.2 to iOS
16.3.
I think nospam understands that but Jolly Roger definitely does not
understand that
Wrong. Anyone with a clue understands that. And only an enormous idiot
would suggest that something as trivial as a software versioning scheme
isn't understood by even computing novices.
Post by cris
But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
Wrong yet again. We both understand better than you. And we see right
through your little lame troll, where you see a post where Apple made
updates to older devices and think to yourself, "OOOH! OOOH! Now's my
chance! I'll go ahead and make a post claiming Apple doesn't /really/ do
updates to older devices in this thread to disrupt it!!! #IAmVerySmart!
#TrollBois-R-Us!"
Post by cris
Either way, nothing they've said shows an understanding of what Apple does.
Projection from the troll farm. #MOO
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cris
2023-01-25 21:38:41 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by cris
But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
Wrong yet again.
There's no sense continuing with you.

Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
*FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.

By that same measure, Google *FULLY PATCHED* Android from a decade ago.
Likewise with Microsoft.

What Jolly Roger and nospam can't understand is that patching one critical
vulnerability is not the same thing as patching all that Apple knows about.

Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam can understand Apple only fully patches the
current release, which at this point in time is iOS 16 and only iOS 16.
https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/

There's no sense in even continuing because both of them can't understand
that Apple doesn't update releases only in the way they wish Apple did.
sms
2023-01-25 22:48:15 UTC
Permalink
On 1/25/2023 1:38 PM, cris wrote:

<snip>
Post by cris
Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
*FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.
By that same measure, Google *FULLY PATCHED* Android from a decade ago.
Likewise with Microsoft.
What Jolly Roger and nospam can't understand is that patching one critical
vulnerability is not the same thing as patching all that Apple knows about.
Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam can understand Apple only fully patches the
current release, which at this point in time is iOS 16 and only iOS 16.
https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/
There's no sense in even continuing because both of them can't understand
that Apple doesn't update releases only in the way they wish Apple did.
They understand all of what you insist that they don't understand. They
just enjoy annoying you.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and
beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain (or so some say)
cris
2023-01-26 03:11:22 UTC
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Post by sms
They understand all of what you insist that they don't understand.
I understand that you think they do, but they haven't demonstrated any
capability to understand since they insist that a single critical
vulnerability is the entire list of known bugs in any one release.

I think they actually believe one bug is everything there ever will be.
Forever. One bug. That's it. Forever iOS 12 is "patched" in their minds.

Anyways, it's no use, as I agree with your recommendation to give up.
They don't understand Apple releases. They probably never will.

At least you do.
As do I.

That's all that matters now.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-26 03:44:45 UTC
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Post by sms
They understand all of what you insist that they don't understand.
they insist that a single critical vulnerability is the entire list of
known bugs
Everyone here can plainly see that the only person making that
completely asinine claim is *you*, Arlen. You're not fooling anyone,
trollboi. : )
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Jolly Roger
2023-01-26 02:07:08 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by cris
But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
Wrong yet again.
There's no sense continuing with you.
Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
*FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.
Neither one of us said those words, dip shit troll.
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Jolly Roger
2023-01-26 04:30:41 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by cris
But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
Wrong yet again.
There's no sense continuing with you.
Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one
critical vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their
minds) just *FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than
four years ago.
By that same measure, Google *FULLY PATCHED* Android from a decade
ago. Likewise with Microsoft.
The only person here making that bullshit claim is you, Arlen. : ) But
speaking of Google / Android, here's Google patching the same sort of
type confusion vulnerability in Chrome that Apple just patched:

Google Chrome emergency update fixes 9th zero-day of the year
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-chrome-emergency-update-fixes-9th-zero-day-of-the-year/>
---
The zero-day vulnerability (CVE-2022-4262) is due to a high-severity
type confusion weakness in the Chrome V8 JavaScript engine reported by
Clement Lecigne of Google's Threat Analysis Group.

Even though type confusion security flaws generally lead to browser
crashes after successful exploitation by reading or writing memory out
of buffer bounds, threat actors can also exploit them for arbitrary code
execution.

Although Google said it detected attacks exploiting this zero-day, the
company has yet to share technical details or information regarding
these incidents.
---

And speaking of zero-day exploits, your lame troll gang seems to be
blissfully unaware that Google is also racking up a bunch of them:

Samsung Galaxy S22 hacked twice on first day of Pwn2Own Toronto
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/samsung-galaxy-s22-hacked-twice-on-first-day-of-pwn2own-toronto/>
---
The STAR Labs team was the first to successfully exploit a zero-day on
Samsung's flagship device by executing their improper input validation
attack on their third attempt, earning $50,000 and 5 Master of Pwn
points.

Another contestant, Chim, also demoed a successful exploit targeting the
Samsung Galaxy S22 and was able to execute an improper input validation
attack earning $25,000 (50% of the prize for the second round of
targeting the same device) and 5 Master of Pwn points.

According to the contest's rules, in both cases, the Galaxy S22 devices
ran the latest version of the Android operating system with all
available updates installed.
---

Samsung Galaxy S22 hacked again on second day of Pwn2Own
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/samsung-galaxy-s22-hacked-again-on-second-day-of-pwn2own/>
---
Contestants hacked the Samsung Galaxy S22 again during the second day of
the consumer-focused Pwn2Own 2022 competition in Toronto, Canada.

They also demoed exploits targeting zero-day vulnerabilities in routers,
printers, smart speakers, and Network Attached Storage (NAS) devices
from HP, NETGEAR, Synology, Sonos, TP-Link, Canon, Lexmark, and Western
Digital.

Security researchers representing the vulnerability research company
Interrupt Labs were the ones to demonstrate a successful exploit against
Samsung's flagship device on Wednesday.

They executed an improper input validation attack and earned $25,000,
50% of the total cash award, because this was the third time the Galaxy
S22 was hacked during the competition.

On the first day of Pwn2Own Toronto, the STAR Labs team and a contestant
known as Chim demoed two other zero-day exploits as part of successful
improper input validation attacks against the Galaxy S22.

In all three cases, according to the contest rules, the devices ran the
latest version of the Android operating system with all available
updates installed.
---

Samsung Galaxy S22 hacked in 55 seconds on Pwn2Own Day 3
<https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/samsung-galaxy-s22-hacked-in-55-seconds-on-pwn2own-day-3/>
---
On the third day of Pwn2Own, contestants hacked the Samsung Galaxy S22 a
fourth time since the start of the competition, and this time they did
it in just 55 seconds.

Security researchers representing penetration test provider Pentest
Limited pulled this off after demoing a zero-day bug part of a
successful Improper Input Validation attack against Samsung's flagship
device on Thursday.

This earned them $25,000, 50% of the total cash award, as this was the
fourth (and last) time the Galaxy S22 was hacked during the Pwn2Own
Toronto 2022 contest.

Tri Dang and Toan Pham of Qrious Secure also tried bypassing the
smartphone's security protection but failed to demonstrate their exploit
during the time allotted for their attempt.

On the first day of Pwn2Own Toronto, the STAR Labs team and a security
researcher only known as Chim demoed two other zero-day exploits in
successful attacks targeting the Galaxy S22.

In all four cases, the smartphones were running the latest Android OS
version with all available updates installed, according to the contest
rules.
---

Your trolls are fucking pathetic. : )
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sms
2023-01-25 22:46:11 UTC
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On 1/25/2023 10:44 AM, cris wrote:

<snip>
Post by cris
I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not understand
how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though you told them.
It's not _me_ telling them, it's _Apple_ telling them (and everyone).

Of course they really do understand. They like making snide remarks and
insulting people, but when you ignore that behavior, you realize that
they are learning.
nospam
2023-01-25 23:52:09 UTC
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Post by sms
Of course they really do understand.
true. it's the trolls and sock puppets who fail to understand, or on
the off chance they do, they twist it to further their trolling.
Post by sms
They like making snide remarks and
insulting people,
that's exactly what *you* do.
Post by sms
but when you ignore that behavior, you realize that
they are learning.
you certainly haven't learned much of anything.

have you figured out how to use your iphone at night?
Gronk
2023-01-25 00:29:24 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by Jolly Roger
ignore the *fact* that Apple is providing security updates to
older devices, and instead wants everyone to believe the shitty
implication that supposedly no other platform vendors have numerous and
severe security vulnerabilities.
It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.
All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.
Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.
That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.
You should give up on telling them what they don't understand.

None of them understand the first thing about how Apple updates work.
They won't even read the links that you already gave them many times.

They _want_ to remain stupid.
You can't fix stupid.

They claim to be Apple lovers and yet they know nothing about Apple.
Andy Burnelli
2023-01-24 04:15:55 UTC
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Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;) https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
Hi Ant,

They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.

That's in keeping with Apple's written policy on not fixing all known bugs
in any release other than the latest (which, for now, is iOS 16 only).

Also, did you notice it's in Webkit, which _always_ has huge holes in it.
CVE-2022-42856: Clement Lecigne of Google's Threat Analysis Group

And _every_ iOS browser is _forced_ to be built upon that insecure WebKit.

Worse, Apple didn't find it.
Apple never finds them.

Google found it.

Don't you think it's time Apple started to _look_ for these huge holes?
--
HINT: For those iKooks who still don't know Apple's policy, I've provided
the source link so many times that to say you're unaware is to prove _why_
the iKooks are always ignorant of all things Apple. They don't read.

1. They don't read anything.
2. Then they deny everything.
3. Then when you provide the link, they don't even read it.
4. That way they can maintain their imaginary belief system about it.

Two weeks later...
5. They deny it again.
6. And demand the link again.
7. When provided, they don't read it.
8. They simply continue to deny all facts about Apple they don't like.

Two weeks later...
9. They deny it yet again, over and over, they deny all facts they hate.
10. They demand the link (which they've been given & they didn't read).

It never ends with these uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks.
Alan
2023-01-24 04:48:37 UTC
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Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
Hi Ant,
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?

List ONE.
cris
2023-01-25 11:56:40 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?
List ONE.
Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web

And please read the whole thread before asking what's already answered.

The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older releases.
Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known, huh?" bugs fixed.

That's Apple's policy whether you know Apple's policy or not.
You really need to get out more often and read the news about Apple.

See my previous post in this thread to Jolly Roger which is included below.

It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.

All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.

Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.

That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.
Alan
2023-01-25 17:19:23 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?
List ONE.
Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web
And please read the whole thread before asking what's already answered.
The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older releases.
Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known, huh?" bugs fixed.
That's Apple's policy whether you know Apple's policy or not.
You really need to get out more often and read the news about Apple.
See my previous post in this thread to Jolly Roger which is included below.
It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.
All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.
Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.
That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.
With all that jabber, you still didn't actually list a KNOWN bug that
Apple is not fixing....


...Arlen.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-25 17:21:43 UTC
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Post by cris
Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?
List ONE.
Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
(wall fo text that doesn't list a single bug not being fixed
rightfully omitted)
With all that jabber, you still didn't actually list a KNOWN bug that
Apple is not fixing....
...Arlen.
He didn't because he can't.
He's only here to troll.
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Alan
2023-01-31 02:36:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by cris
Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?
List ONE.
Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web
And please read the whole thread before asking what's already answered.
The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older releases.
Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known, huh?" bugs fixed.
And I asked to list one of the (according to you) "known" bugs that
weren't fixed.

And you failed.
Jolly Roger
2023-01-31 02:49:10 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by cris
Post by Alan
Post by Andy Burnelli
Post by Ant
You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
"Known", huh?
List ONE.
Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web
And please read the whole thread before asking what's already
answered.
The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older
releases. Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known,
huh?" bugs fixed.
And I asked to list one of the (according to you) "known" bugs that
weren't fixed.
And you failed.
He ALWAYS fails, because his entire LIFE is basic, boring trolling aimed
to fool only the most gullible idiots on the planet - because he is one
of them: a basic and gullible idiot. Like the complete imbeciles in
America who continue to vote for Republican politicians despite the FACT
that they only serve to hurt their voters, he is hopelessly dedicated to
behaviors that go against his own interests, all in the name of "owning
the other". He's a pathetic excuse of a human being, completely
brainwashed and incapable of thinking for, or looking out for, the best
interests of himself. He's a fucking loser. Sad.
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